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What's the deal about IR filtering ?
Without an IR filter, a DPSS laser could be putting out large amounts of Infra-Red. This is going to be at two different wavelengths 808nm (from the pump diode) and 1064nm (from the lasing crystal). Both of these wavelengths are basically invisible (although the 808nm is barely visible to the naked eye) and will not contribute to the brightness of your beam. Lasers without IR filters are often measured and the total output is quoted. Many lasers sold on eBay are filterless and have very high ratings. We have seen 150mw green lasers which only put out about 20-30mw of green. The rest is in IR. The IR does not focus the same way as the green because different wavelengths focus differently and in effect, you will end up with a cone of invisible radiation around the beam. If this invisible radiation reflects from a surface, it is possible to be getting a sustained hit in your eye which you will not notice. Most eBay lasers are of the unfiltered variety and if you are unlucky enough to have purchased one, you have been scammed !!!!!
Here's a site which outlines one laser hobbyist's experience with a cheap eBay laser (also known as an eBayser).

Here are two photographs. These photographs were taken with an IR sensitive camera, looking through 532nm filtering goggles. The blue halo you see is the IR that is leaking. The brighter the blue-grey halo, the more IR the laser leaks.

IR from WL Fusion
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This is the result of IR sensitive photography taken of a WL Fusion.

IR from 150mw eBayser
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This photograph was taken under the same conditions and shows the IR output of a filterless laser.

Yes, properly filtered lasers are more expensive, but no matter how good a deal it sounds... DO NOT buy a laser without first checking into the residual IR component of the beam. Certain manufacturers have been known to LIE !!!
One manufacturer in particular claimed that their lasers have a filter, directly after the diode and before the NdYVO4 crystal. If that was the case, their laser would not work effectively because the IR is being filtered out before the lasing crystal.
An IR filter can go in one of two places ONLY. Immediately after the crystals, before the focussing lens, or directly after the focussing lens.
Let me make this perfectly clear. Most lasers on sale are a scam !!!
I buy my lasers directly from reputable manufacturers. I thoroughly test my lasers. I have also tested the cheap generic lasers sold on eBay. You are looking at the photographs of such a test. They may sound like a good deal, but you would be much better off to buy a 35mw from Wicked Lasers than a 150mw from eBay. Don't get scammed and don't lose your eyes because you are conned into thinking that you are getting a good deal. Don't be drawn in by the lies that resellers will tell you. Most of these resellers haven't got the first clue about lasers and wouldn't know an IR filter if it bit their nose off !!! Nor do many of them care that their lasers are dangerous and are not rated on their green output. I have spent many hours talking to such resellers and when they realise that I am aware of the con, they simply sell through a different eBay account.
If you are thinking of purchasing a laser - Do your research and make sure that you know how to test for residual IR. Don't be conned by big numbers.
I have made it perfectly clear to the manufacturer responsible for producing my range of lasers that good IR filtering is essential. They have assured me that the residual component will be less than 0.05% IR. Of course, I will put this to the test when my evaluation model RS500 arrives.

More IR photographic comparisons between my Fusion and my 8mw eBayser can be seen here: http://www.internal-reflections.com/ebayser.html .

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